Can you be a defense lawyer and be a Christian, too?
Are there any Christian defense lawyers out there? If so, how do you do it? How do you defend people you know for example that they killed or raped someone and then attack the victim and try to make the victim look bad to save your client?
To the answerer with no name spouting off all the verses taken out of context to make God look evil, You failed to post the verse before that in Psalm 137 that says that is was Babylon that was happy to dash her littles ones, NOT God.
Psa 137:8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy [shall he be], that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
Psa 137:9 Happy [shall he be], that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
John the Baptist – Thanks for your very thoughtful answer. You said a defense lawyer said, "You have to have faith that the facts will be revealed, and the innocent or guilty verdict is NOT up to me, it is the jurys decision."
I like that statement. I thought about alot about it. That is very true. But I have to say that defense lawyers can sway a well meaning jury in the cheap pills wrong direction to defend a guilty client and often do. In that case, they are obstructing justice to do their job.
If I was a defense lawyer, I would have to get to the truth. And if I knew that they were guilty I would push them to confess and tell the truth. If they wouldn’t, then I would have to resign as their lawyer as a conscientious objector.
The whole purpose of a court hearing anyway is to get to the TRUTH!
A crimminal lawyer? I mean… those kind of lawyers that lies a lot to defend outlaws? No, it’s against the bible.
One answer could be because if you actually read the bible… Rape and Murder are encouraged… They are only trying to get people doing god’s work to not be punished…
۩ ۩ ۩ Came Not To Send Peace ۩ ۩ ۩
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-37)
Comment
These words of Jesus confirm the unbelievable notion that Jesus did not come to establish peace, but rather to send the sword and to put man against his family. So much for family values. (See also Luke 12: 51-53, Luke 12:49 and Luke 14:26.)
۩ ۩ ۩ I Come To Send Fire ۩ ۩ ۩
"I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?" (Luke 12:49)
"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law." (Luke 12:51-53)
Comment
Jesus did not come to send peace, but rather fire and division among the family. So much for the idea of a pacifist Jesus and the modern concept of "family values." (See also Luke 14:26)
۩ ۩ ۩ Jesus Not Entirely Good ۩ ۩ ۩
"And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matthew 19:16-17)
Comment
Most Christians believe that Jesus, not only lived as the Son of God but God in the flesh. Consider that Jesus here calls "none good but one, that is, God," pointing to an entity separate from himself (also see Matt. 5:48)
Also note that because of the belief that none other than God "is" good suggests that Jesus must not have behaved in an entirely good manner himself.
Some early Gnostic cults (judged as heretics by the orthodox church) believed Jesus as the Devil in the flesh and these verses suggests that He was the opposite of good– Evil in the disguise of God.
۩ ۩ ۩ Jesus’ servants would fight ۩ ۩ ۩
"If my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. " (John 18:36)
Comment
Jesus here gives Pilate an excuse for his predicament and, amazingly, makes the claim that his servants would fight for him if this world represented his kingdom. If Jesus’ servants would fight for him, then what does that say about a peaceful world on earth or in heaven?
In effect, Jesus here complains about his deliverance to the Jews which would lead to his crucifixion, something that God supposedly ordained for the purpose of salvation of sinners (according to believers). So much for that theory.
۩ ۩ ۩ Happy To Kill Children ۩ ۩ ۩
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." (Psalms 137:9, KJV)
"How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones Against the rock." (Psalms 137:9, New American Bible)
"Happy the man who shall seize and smash your little ones against the rock!" (Psalms 137:9, New American Bible)
"a blessing on anyone who seizes your babies and shatters them against a rock!" (Psalms 137:9, Jerusalem Bible)
Comment
Ask a Christian friend whether he or she should feel happy to dash a child against the rocks. Your friend will most likely stare at you in horror, much less believe this idea exists in their sacred Bible.
Many Churches have found this verse quite embarrassing. It gives no wonder why priests, Jews, and Christians alike, who quote from Psalms 137, always leave out this last verse. (See also Isaiah 13:16; Hosea 13-16)
۩ ۩ ۩ Hate Them! ۩ ۩ ۩
"Surely thou will slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies." (Psalms 139:19-22)
Comment
A message of hate from the, supposed, inspired words of God against anyone who takes God’s name in vain or who goes against God.
Faith in one’s belief produces a barrier to further investigation. Religious groups that differ in beliefs from other societies cannot see past their own barriers. When hate enters into the prison of their beliefs, the seeds for violence to act out against other societies come to full bloom.
۩ ۩ ۩ Hate Your Family! ۩ ۩ ۩
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)
Comment
This remarkable statement of hate by Jesus directly contradicts the idea of a loving Christ. If one must hate their father, mother, wife, children, brethren and sisters and even themselves, in order to become a disciple of Jesus, one must question Christ’s idea love, family, and decency. (See also Luke 12:51-53, Matthew 10:34-37.)
Note: A few desperate apologists attempt to dismiss this verse claiming that the word ‘hate’ here really doesn’t mean what it says. The problem with this approach boarders on complete deception and the ironic dismissal of the Bible and Biblical scholarship. The word ‘hate’ here comes from the ancient Greek word ‘miseo’ which means hate (from the primary ‘misos’ [hatred]). If any synonym could substitute for this word, it would come from a word like ‘detest,’ ‘loath,’ or ‘despise.’ Moreover, virtually all Bibles translate the term as hate. To deny this intent means to deny the Bible and the alleged word of Jesus.
Interesting question.
I couldn’t do it, and I’m an atheist.
Everybody deserves a fair trial. It is not up to the defense lawyer to decide who is innocent and who is guilty. Just recently, a man was acquitted of rape because DNA evidence showed he was innocent. Unfortunately, he had already died in prison. Maybe if he had a better defense lawyer, he would have been able to live a normal life. I hope something like this never happens to you, but then again, you might not be black.
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there is a place in the deepest pits of hell for lawyers
By reading the Bible one might get the idea that judging another human being is wrong. It is also wrong to bear false witness against one’s neighbor. Until all the facts have been established and guilt can be determined to the best of a human’s ability, a man needs a defense attorney in this country (USA).
The true and only Good Judge is Jesus Christ. Until He comes we are stuck with corruptible men to do it for the legal system. Since the legal system is all about appearances and not about true justice, it is a defense lawyer’s job to work circumstances and semantics in order to manipulate the imperfections of the law in order to gain a victory. It is shameful but in this country you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Interesting it says a court of law and not a court of justice or truth….
The defense lawyer can refuse to take the cases he doesn’t believe in.
I couldn’t, but I can see how some can. If you look at the law as a shell game and the truth is hidden beneath one of the shells, a lawyer is trying to keep the truth from coming out in an effort to beat a corrupt legal system.
Lawyers are the scum of the earth, (see Berry Sheck, and Johnny Cochran of OJ infamy). Most that I have known were dirty, liars, and thieves who would do, or say to win. Defense Lawyers, Divorce Lawyers, and Lawyers who sue people. I find it hard to believe they can be Christians.
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Yes. As Winston Churchhill stated "Democracy is a horrible form of government…except for all the rest."
There IS no perfect system of justice known to mankind, except God. My wife used to work in a law office as a secretary before we got married, and on more than one occasion, I joined my girlfriend (at the time) with a tableful of lawyers at a restaurant.
One of them was a Christian, and I asked him face to face almost verbatim the question you are now asking "How can you in good conscience defend someone you believe is guilty, knowing the facts of the case as most attorneys find out during the discovery process?
I admired his answer. He said "You have to have faith that the facts will be revealed, and the innocent or guilty verdict is NOT up to me, it is the jurys decision. It is my job to give my client the best defense I know how."
I know that there is a lot of criticism of lawyers among society at large, and most people think as highly of them as they do used car salesmen, but that opinion can change dramatically if you are ever FALSELY accused of something.
Attorneys are REQUIRED to provide a certain number of hours per year pro bono services as a condition of continued membership in their bar association, so, just because someone cannot AFFORD an attorney, doesn’t mean they will be assigned a "flunkie" by the court. They may get a really sharp lawyer.
As the Christian attorney I questioned also correctly pointed out, what happens to a righteous man wrongly sentenced to die? He is executed and sent to his eternal reward, which is Heaven, what has he lost?
As Christians, we KNOW that eventually ALL wrongs will be righted. Christ is the FINAL judge, and he knows the truth without DNA evidence.